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	<title>Comments on: The Connection Between Great Literature and Censorship</title>
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	<description>A seduction in words</description>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.laurendane.com/blog/2006/09/26/the-connection-between-great-literature-and-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1219</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL - I forgot I put that rant in my comment above *snicker*...

I agree about making sure that only guilty people are put to death. It's a tough call. This one didn't give me any pause at all. I just hate the argument that they are using. So freakin' petty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL - I forgot I put that rant in my comment above *snicker*&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree about making sure that only guilty people are put to death. It&#8217;s a tough call. This one didn&#8217;t give me any pause at all. I just hate the argument that they are using. So freakin&#8217; petty.</p>
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		<title>By: laurendane</title>
		<link>http://www.laurendane.com/blog/2006/09/26/the-connection-between-great-literature-and-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1218</link>
		<dc:creator>laurendane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I meant above where you said you didn't mean to be political, LOL.  As for the death penalty and my legal opinion, oy!

From a purely legal standpoint, the death penalty cannot ever be administered in a way that I can be assured we're always putting a guilty person to death. There are cases every year where people are found to have been wrongly convicted and that makes me uncomfortable with the process. If the state is going to put people to death, it shouldn't be putting innocent people to death.

So while I find the whole idea of needle pricks hurting and sterilizing the place where the needle gets inserted to be absurd, the very real issue of how the system is administered and the fact that we've got innocent people on death row, makes me not support it.

Not that I don't find some people absolutely deserving of death. I do. But from the standpoint of a lawyer and someone who believes the state should administer justice, I can't support it in its current form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I meant above where you said you didn&#8217;t mean to be political, LOL.  As for the death penalty and my legal opinion, oy!</p>
<p>From a purely legal standpoint, the death penalty cannot ever be administered in a way that I can be assured we&#8217;re always putting a guilty person to death. There are cases every year where people are found to have been wrongly convicted and that makes me uncomfortable with the process. If the state is going to put people to death, it shouldn&#8217;t be putting innocent people to death.</p>
<p>So while I find the whole idea of needle pricks hurting and sterilizing the place where the needle gets inserted to be absurd, the very real issue of how the system is administered and the fact that we&#8217;ve got innocent people on death row, makes me not support it.</p>
<p>Not that I don&#8217;t find some people absolutely deserving of death. I do. But from the standpoint of a lawyer and someone who believes the state should administer justice, I can&#8217;t support it in its current form.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.laurendane.com/blog/2006/09/26/the-connection-between-great-literature-and-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1217</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Lauren. The Suz review was done by JenniferB, who really and truly "owns" the blog LOL. 

Are you referring to the little rant I put up on Let's Gab? Grrrrr.... that makes me so mad!! I'd be interested in hearing your legal opinion over there, only if you're comfortable posting about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lauren. The Suz review was done by JenniferB, who really and truly &#8220;owns&#8221; the blog LOL. </p>
<p>Are you referring to the little rant I put up on Let&#8217;s Gab? Grrrrr&#8230;. that makes me so mad!! I&#8217;d be interested in hearing your legal opinion over there, only if you&#8217;re comfortable posting about it.</p>
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		<title>By: laurendane</title>
		<link>http://www.laurendane.com/blog/2006/09/26/the-connection-between-great-literature-and-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>laurendane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lori's blog is probably my favorite reader review blog. It's very well done and honest as well as comprehensive.

And Lori, sweetie, I totally agree with you so don't worry about being political, LOL.

I'm a Suz fan too. I haven't read her most recent but I've been a wee bit busy, LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori&#8217;s blog is probably my favorite reader review blog. It&#8217;s very well done and honest as well as comprehensive.</p>
<p>And Lori, sweetie, I totally agree with you so don&#8217;t worry about being political, LOL.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Suz fan too. I haven&#8217;t read her most recent but I&#8217;ve been a wee bit busy, LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.laurendane.com/blog/2006/09/26/the-connection-between-great-literature-and-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1214</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - thank you Loribelle! What a nice thing to say  :smile:

And is there anybody out there who doesn't love Suz? And what a nice lady to boot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow - thank you Loribelle! What a nice thing to say  <img src="http://www.laurendane.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>And is there anybody out there who doesn&#8217;t love Suz? And what a nice lady to boot!</p>
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		<title>By: Loribelle Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.laurendane.com/blog/2006/09/26/the-connection-between-great-literature-and-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1212</link>
		<dc:creator>Loribelle Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren, I'll have to go look. I didn't realize that about DH Lawrence. He's another of my faves and I just mentioned him on a Divas thread a few days ago. 

Lori, I love your blog! I'm was justing checking it out and I have to say I agree about Suz Brockmann. I love her and no one can do what she does. Didn't you just love Izzy? I so want his book now lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren, I&#8217;ll have to go look. I didn&#8217;t realize that about DH Lawrence. He&#8217;s another of my faves and I just mentioned him on a Divas thread a few days ago. </p>
<p>Lori, I love your blog! I&#8217;m was justing checking it out and I have to say I agree about Suz Brockmann. I love her and no one can do what she does. Didn&#8217;t you just love Izzy? I so want his book now lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.laurendane.com/blog/2006/09/26/the-connection-between-great-literature-and-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1211</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vonnegut is a pretty outspoken critic of the far right. I wonder how much of the targeting is based on his personal philosophies rather than anything contained in his books. I agree - he is a brilliant man.

And I couldn't agree more about Steinbeck. Although perhaps high school students can't truly appreciate The Grapes of Wrath, which is when we are all required to read it LOL, it is definitely one that brings the depression to life, especially as we lose more and more people who were alive during that time. And Of Mice and Men is just such an amazing book,... I don't know what else to say about it... and Catch-22 and Heart of Darkness...  Sheesh... 

You know, all of a sudden I find it very interesting that we are off fighting a war in another country, forcing democracy down the throats of people who, frankly, don't seem to want it all that much and seem to do better without it, but we can't or don't even enforce it in our own country. Here we are, 225 years after our own hard-earned democracy and we are still trying to tell people what they should and shouldn't read. Hmmm... food for thought...   (I do NOT intend for this to be a political debate, just something to chew on)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vonnegut is a pretty outspoken critic of the far right. I wonder how much of the targeting is based on his personal philosophies rather than anything contained in his books. I agree - he is a brilliant man.</p>
<p>And I couldn&#8217;t agree more about Steinbeck. Although perhaps high school students can&#8217;t truly appreciate The Grapes of Wrath, which is when we are all required to read it LOL, it is definitely one that brings the depression to life, especially as we lose more and more people who were alive during that time. And Of Mice and Men is just such an amazing book,&#8230; I don&#8217;t know what else to say about it&#8230; and Catch-22 and Heart of Darkness&#8230;  Sheesh&#8230; </p>
<p>You know, all of a sudden I find it very interesting that we are off fighting a war in another country, forcing democracy down the throats of people who, frankly, don&#8217;t seem to want it all that much and seem to do better without it, but we can&#8217;t or don&#8217;t even enforce it in our own country. Here we are, 225 years after our own hard-earned democracy and we are still trying to tell people what they should and shouldn&#8217;t read. Hmmm&#8230; food for thought&#8230;   (I do NOT intend for this to be a political debate, just something to chew on)</p>
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		<title>By: laurendane</title>
		<link>http://www.laurendane.com/blog/2006/09/26/the-connection-between-great-literature-and-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1210</link>
		<dc:creator>laurendane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine, the ALA site has a list of some of the reasons why books are challenged - http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/challengedbanned/challengedbanned.htm

also, in the case of say, Grapes of Wrath - it's a pretty sound indictment of class relations in America. Instead of learning, some people just shut down when threatened and they want to shut others up.

Most of the books on the list have very serious themes, like Heart of Darkness and Catch 22 - both books with very strong points of view. There may be curse words in some of them, racial themes, sexual themes - every single DH Lawrence novel on the list was challenged.

Loribelle, yeah no kidding! I'll be sure to check out Novelty Girls on Thursday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine, the ALA site has a list of some of the reasons why books are challenged - <a href="http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/challengedbanned/challengedbanned.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/challengedbanned/challengedbanned.htm</a></p>
<p>also, in the case of say, Grapes of Wrath - it&#8217;s a pretty sound indictment of class relations in America. Instead of learning, some people just shut down when threatened and they want to shut others up.</p>
<p>Most of the books on the list have very serious themes, like Heart of Darkness and Catch 22 - both books with very strong points of view. There may be curse words in some of them, racial themes, sexual themes - every single DH Lawrence novel on the list was challenged.</p>
<p>Loribelle, yeah no kidding! I&#8217;ll be sure to check out Novelty Girls on Thursday!</p>
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		<title>By: Loribelle Hunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loribelle Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've read almost all those books. Gatsby has always been a favorite. I read it over and over again. I'm posting Thursday at The Novelty Girls about Banned Book Week. Lots of really great books on that list. It's such a shame some people are so small minded they try to limit other's ability to seek out knowledge through literature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read almost all those books. Gatsby has always been a favorite. I read it over and over again. I&#8217;m posting Thursday at The Novelty Girls about Banned Book Week. Lots of really great books on that list. It&#8217;s such a shame some people are so small minded they try to limit other&#8217;s ability to seek out knowledge through literature.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.laurendane.com/blog/2006/09/26/the-connection-between-great-literature-and-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-1208</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is, why do they want to ban these books. I would love to hear the rationale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is, why do they want to ban these books. I would love to hear the rationale.</p>
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